I love it when…
cutesy fashion week parisian girl bullshit is counteracted by effective mockery.
(isnt it curious that most of these girls try so hard to look so HARD KNOCK LIFE expensive spikey bad ass and yet retain a kitten-like allure….purring over the sweetness of well designed kitsch cupcakes but ripping apart their best friend behind her back because a new botox treatment could not possibly distract from the 3 pounds she gained?)
P.S. now that I’ve gotten a bitch fest primed and pressed, its time for some commentary about MFA programs and WHO YOU SHOULD BE READING according to the people who criticize or champion MFA programs:
Well, just because it’s futile, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t try.
Perhaps if there was a survey or something, that was broad based, and with cumulative data, it would blur out some of these specific variances? I’m intersted in general data anyway.
So let’s say there was a survey with three points:
1. What visiting poets have been there in the last few years.
2. What books are the faculty having students read over the past few years.
3. What books are students bringing in themselves and passing around.
Something specific like that from every MFA on the “Top 50” list (or, better, from all graduate creative writing degree-granting institutions) would give an interesting snapshot of who and what we are right now.
It might not have predictive value, but it might have fact value.
I think I might have my theory of writing class do that this semester.
Mostly just because I’m curious.
Well, because I was kind of a shit in my last comment, I’ll answer this survey re: the Iowa Writers’ Workshop from circa 2007 to circa 2010:
1. Tony Hoagland, Peter Gizzi, Emily Wilson, Matthea Harvey, Rod Smith, Dan Beachy-Quick, Robert Hass, Mary Jo Bang, Elizabeth Robinson, Robyn Schiff, Geoffrey O’Brien. Individual readings and Q&As by countless poets, including Paul Muldoon, Michael Palmer, Jorie Graham, Donald Revell, Timothy Donnelly, Joyelle McSweeney, Oni Buchanan, Keith and Rosmarie Waldrop, and John Taggart.
2. No assigned books whatsoever. Recommended books from faculty included works by: Jean Follain, Michael Palmer, Ron Padgett, Joseph Ceravalo, Wallace Stevens, William Bronk, Jack Gilbert, John Godfrey, Tomas Transtromer, Barbara Guest, Rae Armantrout, Thomas Sayers Ellis, Fanny Howe, Lisa Jarnot, Larry Levis, Alice Notley, W.S. Merwin, Anthony McCann, Frank O’Hara, Charles Oppen, Charles Reznikoff, Louis Zukofsky, Charles Olson, David Shapiro, Frederick Seidel, James Schuyler, Jack Spicer, William Carlos Williams, Ed Dorn, Frank Bidart, Michael Burkard, T.S. Eliot, Elizabeth Bishop, about 100 others (seriously).
3. Students were reading John Taggart, Zachary Schomberg, Graham Foust, Ted Berrigan, Lucie Brock-Broido, Robert Duncan, James Galvin, Robert Creeley, David Berman, Joshua Beckman, Ben Lerner, H.D., Jack Spicer, Guillaume Apollinaire, Maurice Manning, Matthea Harvey, Cathy Park Hong, Lara Glenum, Frank O’Hara, Dorothea Lasky, K. Silem Mohammad, Cathy Wagner, Dean Young, Keith Waldrop, Ezra Pound, about 200 others (seriously).
If the survey is futile, it’s only because it’s the wrong question and won’t produce the type of answer you might expect, not because the answer isn’t available to be had.
in mighty conclusion, FUCK FRANK O’HARA AND FUCK LANVIN.
even if i like both of them,
I’d rather belong to my own opposing camp of ME AND THE PENIS CUPCAKE VS. THE WORLD